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Comment from: Amir Elion [Visitor]  

Hi Mark,
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
I’ve also been approached by some of the organizations you mention for membership registration (after attending some online webinars they organized) and could not really find a reason to do so, at least not for the amounts they were asking for.
I think you nailed some of the important reasons for what I felt.
Another point I’d like to add is that for international members, such as myself, these memberships offer even less as the conference discounts and a great number of their certification plans are only face to face. And yet - international membership fees are usually higher than national (I assume they calculate the cost of sending the magazines or similar stuff globally).
This too goes to show that these organizations need to re-think the value they are offering to members.
Amir

13/11/11 @ 03:40
Comment from: Sam Burrough [Visitor]

I think you’re right that these organisations are struggling to catch up with the new status quo - the gift economy. As you said the bit you can’t replicate so easily is the face to face stuff. Dan Roddy and I have recently started an initiative similar to the teachmeets you mentioned called weelearning (west of england elearning) to try and do just that. We’ve only done one event so far and we only had a handful of people, but it was free, had a good mix of people from different learning backgrounds and we’re going to do it again. I think this kind of low cost, self organised event, where membership is not required is definitely one future alternative.

13/11/11 @ 10:33
Comment from: berthelemy [Member]  
Mark

Thanks Amir,
It does seem odd that paper is still the default option. I wonder what’s wrong with ebooks or even pdf’s.

Sam, I’d seen what you and Dan had done in Bristol. I must pick your brains sometime to get an East Midlands event up and running.

13/11/11 @ 17:26
Comment from: Kate Graham [Visitor]

Thanks for this post Mark, I had some similar thoughts earlier in the year here: http://kategraham23.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/what-was-going-to-be-my-first-post/

I still stand by what I said then: ‘I think the quality and wealth of freely available resources and networking opportunities out there has probably helped prompt some membership organisations to raise their game. They can’t rest on the laurels of their membership fees any more in an environment where there are hundreds of other organisations trying to get the attention of their members for free. I’d be really keen to hear the thoughts of others on the future of membership organisations and also about the quality of the resources, networking, learning and certifications that are out there and how they compare with the ‘free’ content that is available.’

One of the reasons I’ve recently put my name into the hat for the eLearning Network Board is that I feel there’s a great opportunity to take these membership organisations to the next level. As someone who works in marketing I’m acutely aware how much social media has altered the playing field. As Seth Godin would say, the ‘old’ rules no longer apply. And the same goes for membership organisations. The traditional model has got to change and move with the times, and having been an attendee at the first Wee Learning event that Sam mentions above, I can say I really do see the value in this change of direction.

However, there is benefit to the outside world of showing a professional qualification or affiliation as you say Mark. And for me personally, I love having access to a network of people that I might not otherwise come across. Often, fees are charged to facilitate events or buy software such as WebEx to deliver webinars and provide value for members. If they can see where there money is going and what it’s getting them (and it’s a reasonable sum!), I think there’s a great opportunity for some of these organisations in the future. But those that don’t adapt will suffer in the long run.

14/11/11 @ 07:28
Comment from: Patrick Dunn [Visitor]

Very interesting Mark - nicely put. There’s something very attractive here about the tension between on the one hand increased individualism ("I *won’t* join one of our clubs!"), the sense that I can choose my own way without having to become an “insider” with all the potential for closed-mindedness…and on the other hand the hugely increased capability to connect with others in a meaningful way. It feels somewhat counter-intuitive, almost “inhuman", but as in so many ways we’re having to evolve extremely quickly.

14/11/11 @ 08:03
Comment from: Niall Gavin [Visitor]

Good points Mark, well made. As a Fellow of the LPI, Member of the BILD and the Chartered Management Institute, and Assoc Member of the CIPD, I am struggling to see what I am getting for a total annual outlay of some £450! (albeit that my employer pays one of those). I have a nice set of initials after my name, but I’m not sure how - if at all - that resonates with others as a confirmation of my professional competence. I’m reflecting more on this, and thank you for bringing to the surface something I’ve been mulling over for some time now.
Cheers.
Niall Gavin FLPI, MBILD, MCMI, AssocCIPD (see what I mean?)

18/11/11 @ 13:56
Comment from: David Smith [Visitor]

Hi Mark

Being an ASTD member for three years now i feel i get good value for money from that membership but i do stop at that one.

Coupled with the fact that i speak at ASTD events both in the US & UK i guess there is a sense of loyalty that comes into my decision to stay as a member.

However one thing i think our industry suffers from is too many of these organisations that claim to be “the one to join” yet many are very commercial or self serving in nature - beome a member so we can promote our products and services more than give us a network that we can learn from, keep up to date with cutting edge learning, share thoughts and opinions that are welcomed.

I am a huge fan of “pay it forward” - pity not many of these organisations dont subscribe much to this mentality.

I will continue with my ASTD membership but struggle to see any real value in many of the others for the reasons many have already put forward.

As Kate says above - maybe time for them to change and adapt - remember the dinosaurs became extinct for a reason!

Cheers

David

18/11/11 @ 19:31
Comment from: Nica Faustino [Visitor]  

Hi, great questions to generate discussions. Well positioned. I would like to add that in my experience as a vendor of an App Membership Connect that allows membership bodies to distribute, track and run analytics on any content (PDF, DOC, Videos), I found that membership bodies are stuck in the 80’s and all they can provide to their members is an annual networking event, a paper base catalogue every quarter and the false promise of a CPD certification to promote professionalism among their members. Many of them simply ignore or reject the 2014 & beyond technologies available to them in order to create the “community” feeling that would allow members to benefit from freely exchanging information. That is what we aim to address with Membership Connect once we launch it in the near future.

09/04/14 @ 13:57

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