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Comment from: Eylan [Visitor]  

Great post Mark - and an excellent summary of the discussion that we have been having.

I think it is about time we all stopped throwing things from up on the fence and stopped moaning, and proposed something more positive.

I think that we could look at other methods for structuring this discussion (thanks to my wife @lezeki for this!) such as the Delphic Technique
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_method

BrainPOP UK would love to help get these events off the ground - virtual or f2f - so that we can get it going.

Looking forward being involved with this

13/07/10 @ 08:21
Comment from: virginia Yonkers [Visitor]  

My daughter goes to a non-traditional secondary school here in the US (in New York state). The school is only in its 3rd year, but has seen some great results. It is a project based curriculum, requiring team work for each project, interaction with the community (business, colleges, community service, professional organizations, etc…).

The problem has been getting the school districts (who make the funding decisions) to get on board. They are in the process of changing the model to convince the school boards that this is an effective model. With this in mind I have a couple of other suggestions:

1) Provide choice in approaches. My daughter’s school is a good alternative for those who learn well in not structured environments. In fact, many who choose to go to the schools are those that show a high level of intelligence, but have poor grades or grades that don’t capture their knowledge. However, my son would not do well in this environment.

2) this leads to how do you assess learning that may be delivered differently? What my daughter’s school has found is that most of the students are very successfully with the testing also as long as they have some exposure to what the testing is looking for and how it is developed. They have a higher pass rate than other schools in the state despite the fact that many of their students would be considered learning disabled or low preforming in the schools they came from.

3) There needs to be constant communication and negotiation of the curriculum between teachers, administrators, the community, and the students. Her school does not wait to implement changes if they perceive there is a problem with their curriculum, resources, or methods of teaching. Each of the past 4 years the freshman curriculum has been changed based on feedback from students, parents, teachers, administrators and the community members who are part of each student’s learning committee. These learning committees meet twice a year for each student and discuss the student’s progress. The first year of the school, the administrators wanted to get rid of the committees because it was time consuming. However, it after much advocating from the parents, teachers, and students, this has become a tool to help develop curriculum and assess student learning and needs. It is an invaluable tool to get rich feedback from all the influences in the educational system. It would be like having a tutor, student, parents, and a member of the community meet in the British system of education.

I’m not sure if any of this is relevant to your discussion. However, it might be helpful to look at other models from which you could take pieces.

14/07/10 @ 23:04
Comment from: berthelemy [Member]  
Mark

@Virginia. Thanks. Yes - it’s always useful to look at other models, to see what works elsewhere. I think assessment is going to be the key issue here. It’s what drives much of the school system - everything is geared around what is being assessed.

@Eylan. Thanks for the support. Not sure quite how to move this forward. A number of people are expressing support in various forums - we need to try to pull them together somehow.

15/07/10 @ 07:37
Comment from: Doug Belshaw [Visitor]  
Doug Belshaw

Great idea, Mark. I’m in. :-)

05/08/10 @ 10:36
Comment from: Tony Parkin [Visitor]  

Flattered and honoured to be included and mentioned in such company, Mark. Though I think anyone who knows me would not claim that I had been successful at changing my organisation from the inside… though I have hopefully helped others achieve it in theirs! And I have at least offered a model, haven and support for different thinking inside my own….

I would say though that I have encountered some of the thinking here out there in a number of schools that I have had the pleasure of working with whilst at SSAT. The alternative culture is out there… and i would be up for seeing hwo we could mobilise some of this thinking!

18/08/10 @ 09:34

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