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Comment from: Karyn Romeis [Visitor]  
Karyn Romeis

Argue? What’s to argue about? The whole thing is a farce. A child works all through the year, but the level of their ability/knowledge/competence for an entire subject area is established in the space of a few hours under extremely stressful, totally artificial conditions.


22/05/07 @ 05:34
Comment from: Virginia Yonkers [Visitor]
Virginia Yonkers

I am only asking this because I am unfamiliar with the British system of testing: are the tests timed? In New York state, we are moving to this system of testing. For over 70 years, the state had subject matter tests with a statewide curriculum (one of the first in the US) at the secondary level. The average student could finish these tests in 1 1/2 hours but were given 4 hours to take them. The new tests are timed with 50-75 items to be completed in 60-75 minutes, depending on the test. Currently we have a test in the 4th year, 8th year, and 10th year along with the subject matter tests in the secondary school. Next year the tests will be expanded to the 3rd year, 7th year, and 9th year, and I think the following year all grade levels between the 3rd-11th will have these tests.

My daughter, who is a very reflective thinker, complains that she never has enough time to answer the questions. In addition, she tends to “overthink” the questions and finds a number of ways to answer the same question, depending on how you interpret the meaning of the words. So I question the validity of these tests in really measuring her knowledge.

I wonder why portfolios of work, that would need to meet certain criteria (which could include some standard testing, but perhaps a series so those who are ill or just not up to par on those day it is given) could be more accurately assessed are not used more widely?

I wonder what would happen if we required a standardized exam for all CEO’s or politicians to take in order to keep their position?

31/05/07 @ 09:18
Comment from: berthelemy [Member]  

Hi Virginia, thanks for the comment.

The tests are timed (at least for the 11 year olds and upwards). I agree that portfolios might be a good way forward. I’m not sure why they’re not more widely used.


31/05/07 @ 10:02
Comment from: Tampa Telephone [Visitor]
Tampa Telephone

I used to have a similar trouble with timed tests as Virginia’s daughter. The nature of the questions in such tests also often make the examinee think twice about an answer and that spells doom for someone who overthinks (he/she won’t have enough time to answer everything). However, if one would think about it, maybe one of the criteria in passing the said test is to make quick (correct) judgments/decisions.

19/10/09 @ 07:52
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